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powers of this court are limited. But the Senate ought to govern themselves by the rules and general principles of law entirely in this impeachment; they have not the power to change the law in this respect, nor to depart from the law. But if they see occasion, with the consent of this House and the President, a law might be made suitable to this case.

Mr. NICHOLAS and Mr. DANA opposing this mode of getting rid of the question, and wishing for the sense of the House to be taken upon it, Mr. O. withdrew his motion.

The yeas and nays were called upon it. After Mr. DANA had read the case of Robert Tresylliam and others, tried before the British House of Lords in the year 1388, in support of his opinion, and Mr. GORDON declared that this case had since that time been highly censured by the English law writers, the yeas and nays were taken on the report, and negatived-69 to 11, as follows:

YEAS-John Dennis, Thomas Evans, Chauncey
Goodrich, William Gordon, Robert Goodloe Harper,
James H. Imlay, William Matthews, Thomas Pinckney,
John Reed, Samuel Sewall, and George Thatcher,
NATS-George Baer, jr, Abraham Baldwin, David
Bard, Bailey Bartlett, Jonathan Bruce, David Brooks,
Robert Brown, Stephen Bullock, Christopher G. Champ-
lin, John Chapman, William Charles Cole Claiborne,
John Clopton, William Craik, Samuel W. Dana, John
Dawson, George Dent, William Edmond, Joseph Eg-
gleston, Lucas Elmendorf, William Findley, Abiel Fos-
ter, Dwight Foster, Jonathan Freeman, Albert Gallatin,
Henry Glen, Andrew Gregg, Roger Griswold, John A.
Hanna, Carter B Harrison, Thomas Hartley, Jonathan
N. Havens, Joseph Heister, William Hindman, David
Holmes, Hezekiah L. Hosmer, Walter Jones, Samuel
Lyman, James Machir, Nathaniel Macon, Blair Mc-
Clenachan, Lewis R. Morris, Anthony New, John Ni-
cholas, Harrison G. Otis, Isaac Parker, Josiah Parker,
John Rutledge, jr., James Schureman, William Shep
ard, Thomas Sinnickson, Nathaniel Smith, Samuel

Smith, William Smith, Richard Dobbs Spaight, Peleg
Sprague, Richard Sprigg, Richard Stanford, Richard
Thomas, Mark Thomson, Thomas Tillinghast, Abram
Trigg, John Trigg, John E. Van Alen, Philip Van
Cortlandt, Joseph B. Varnum, Abraham Venable, Peleg
Wadsworth, Robert Waln, and John Williams.
The report having been negatived,

Mr. SEWALL wished, before the House rose, that they would agree to some positive instructions to the managers of the impeachment, as he was unwilling that a precedent of the kind which the House seem inclined to establish, should lie upon the managers, and he did not think it sufficient for the House to have negatived the report which had been made to them. He wished to have an affirmative vote on the part of the House, as the foundation of their proceedings. He could have wished that the motion had come from another quarter; but as it had not, he would himself move a resolution to the following effect:

"Resolved, That the managers appointed on the part of this House for conducting the impeachment against William Blount, proceed in the prosecution of the said

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impeachment, although William Blount shouid not ap-* pear in person to answer to the same.'

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Mr. VENABLE did not know whether there was any propriety or necessity for such a resolution; but if it were to be passed, he hoped it would be amended, by adding to it," provided the Senate shall think proper to proceed with the same," as it appeared to him a question most proper to be determined by the Senate, except a law were passed on the subject.

Mr. SEWALL had no objection to the alteration. Mr. HARTLEY hoped this resolution would not be passed. He saw no necessity for it, as the Senate had a right to act as they saw proper without the interference of this House.

Mr. GALLATIN called for the reading of the message received from the Senate on Tuesday only fact before the House is, that William Blount last. From which, he said, it appeared, that the had not appeared at the bar of the Senate, in pur

suance of the summons which had been served upon him; and the resolution now proposed, if agreed to, would express an opinion that the trial must be proceeded with, though Mr. Blount neither appear by himself or counsel. Mr. G. said, though he had readily voted against the resolution which proposed a delay of the trial until Mr. Blount appear in person, he was not willing to say the trial shall go on at all events. It would be establishing a dangerous precedent. He supposed the managers were already in full possession of the opinion of the House, without any farther resolution on the subject.

Mr. SEWALL did not think the resolution he had

proposed was liable to the objection made to it, as it applies to no other case than the present; nor does it contemplate a proceeding in the trials, except counsel appeared in behalf of Mr. Blount. He hoped, therefore, it would be agreed to.

Mr. CRAIK said, the House was called upon to vote upon a question-all the facts relating to which are not regularly before them, though they it improper not to give any instructions at all, but may have heard them incidentally. He thought leave the Senate to proceed as they think proper, without establishing any precedent.

contain all the facts which are necessary, he hoped gentlemen would amend it so as to be satisfactory, that the managers might receive instructions from the House how to proceed; for he could not concur in the opinion which had been expressed that the whole of the proceedings in this business should be left to the Senate; for, in thus giving up their opinions, the House might surrender in an indirect manner the most valuable privileges of the citizens of the United States, if at any time a Senate shall be found inclined to abuse their powers. The managers on the part of this House, Mr. P. said, would be placed in a peculiarly hard situation, if the House should refuse to instruct them on this subject, as the whole responsibility of the business would lie upon them, and they may hereafter be accused of giving up the best interests of the citizens of the United States, though their intentions are different. Who, said Mr. P.,

Mr. PINCKNEY said, if the resolution does not

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are the managers of this impeachment? Are they not the organs of this House; and for the House to refuse them instructions is as unreasonable as if an individual should refuse to make use of his head to direct his hands what to do. It is, said he, the duty of the managers to apply to the House for instructions, and it is equally the duty of the House to give them. He hoped, therefore, the resolution would be agreed to.

Mr. Oris thought it would be proper to strike out of the resolution all after the word "impeachment," if it was passed at all; but he thought it wholly unnecessary, as the House had authorized the managers to ask for a further day to proceed with the business, and that having been assigned, they might doubtless attend to it without further instructions.

Mr. NICHOLAS saw no necessity for a motion like the present; but, if the managers wished it he should have no objection to vote for a resolution directing them to proceed in the business. As to the Senate being sovereign judges, and that if they were so disposed, might abuse their trust-if they were not to proceed on the business in a manner which was likely to do justice, the House would certainly have no hesitation in withdrawing the prosecution.

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requisite for the ensuing year. Referred to the Committee of Ways and Means.

UNIFORM MILITIA.

Mr. W. CLAIBORNE said that there was a sub

ject before the House at the last session, which was not finished, and which he thought it expedient to bring again before the House. He alluded to the bill proposing a new regulation of the militia system. It was his opinion that the common defence of our country ought to rest upon the militia, and he thought their present derangement a national misfortune, which ought to be removed as soon as possible. He therefore moved for the appointment of a committee to report whether any, and, if any, what, amendments are, in their opinion, necessary in the act for establishing a that they be authorized to report by bill or otheruniform militia throughout the United States, and wise. Agreed to.

POST OFFICE LAW.

Mr. CRAIK moved for the appointment of a committee to consider whether any and what alterations are necessary in the act respecting Post Offices and Post Roads.

Mr. THATCHER thought it would be well to wait for the report of the Postmaster General on this subject, which might be expected in a few days, as he had been directed at the last session to make a report early in the present session, and all the petitions on this subject had been referred to him.

Mr. CRAIK thought the House had better appoint a committee, and when the report of the Postmaster General came in, it might be referred this committee. Agreed to, and a committee of five appointed.

Mr. HARPER fully subscribed to the doctrine of the gentleman from Virginia with respect to their power of withdrawing the prosecution; but he considered the managers merely as the counsel of the House; they have declared an opinion, which they declined acting upon until they received the direction of the House. The House has done nothing more than say they will not give this direc-to tion. It is true the managers might infer from this what is the opinion of the House; but it is possible that in coming to this resolution, the House might have thought the managers so very wise as not to need any instructions. And, indeed, if no instructions are given them, he saw nothing to prevent the managers from pursuing the course which they proposed by their report. He should himself be for taking this course. He believed, however, it was the duty of the House to come to an express declaration of opinion on this subject; and it was not only their duty, but it would also be doing an act of favor to the managers, to which he thought them entitled.

After a few other observations, the question was put on this resolution, and negatived-37 to 46.

MONDAY, December 24.

Several other members, to wit: from Massachusetts, TOMPSON J. SKINNER; from Virginia, MATTHEW CLAY; from Kentucky, THOMAS T. DAVIS; and from North Carolina, WILLIAM BARRY GROVE and ROBERT WILLIAMS; appeared and

took their seats in the House.

The SPEAKER laid before the House a letter from the Secretary of the Treasury, enclosing a statement of the expenses of Government for the present year, and also of what revenue will be

Mr. BALDWIN said, as a report was made during the last session, on a representation and remonstrance of the Legislature of the State of Georgia, which was not then acted upon, he moved to have it referred to a Committee of the Whole. Agreed to.

Mr. Oris proposed, as the managers of the impeachment against William Blount would have to attend to their duty in the Senate, at 12 o'clock, that the House adjourn, and that, to-morrow being Christmas day, they adjourn till Wednesday. Agreed to, and the House adjourned.

WEDNESDAY, December 26.

Two other members, to wit: NATHANIEL FREEMAN, Jr., from Massachusetts, and JAMES A. BAYARD, from Delaware, appeared and took their seats in the House.

The SPEAKER laid before the House a report from the Secretary of the Navy, in conformity to a resolution proposed by Mr. J. PARKER, on the 18th instant, which was ordered to be printed. USURPATION OF EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY.

Mr. GRISWOLD said he wished to lay a resolution upon the table, relative to a subject which, in his opinion, deserves consideration. Its object is to punish a crime which goes to the destruction of the Executive power of the Government. He

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meant that description of crime which arises from an interference of individual citizens in the negotations of our Executive with foreign Governments. As every gentleman must be satisfied of the importance of this object, and the propriety of making some provision with respect to it, he trusted it would meet with no opposition. The resolution was in the following words:

"Resolved, That a committee be appointed to inquire into the expediency of amending the act entitled 'An art in addition to the act for the punishment of certain crimes against the United States,' so far as to extend the penalties of the said act, and other penalties, if need be, all persons, citizens of the United States, who shall surp the Executive authority of this Government, by cocamencing or carrying on any correspondence with the Governments of any foreign Prince or State, relating to controversies or disputes which do or shall exist between sach Prince or State and the United States." Ordered to lie on the table.

UNIFORM BANKRUPTCY.

The House then resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on the bill providing a uniform system of bankruptcy throughout the United States. which, after making some amendments in several of the sections, with scarcely any debate, was wholly gone through by sections; after which,

Mr. Oris moved to strike out of the tenth section, which provides that in case of a bona fide purchase, made from a bankrupt, for a valuable consideration, by any person having no knowledge, information, or notice, of any act of bankruptcy committed, such purchase shall not be invalidated or impeached, the following words, viz:

"Unless a major part, in value, of the creditors, at a meeting to be held upon due notice, shall agree to refund or return to such purchaser the sum of money or other consideration, which he shall make appear that he paid or gave upon such purchase; and, in such case, upon the refunding or tendering such consideration, the assignees shall be entitled to the property sold as aforesaid,

for the use of the creditors:"

And to insert, in their place, the following amendments:

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Provided always, That no purchase made bona fide, from such bankrupt, of any personal estate, for a valuable consideration, by any person having no know ledge, information, or notice, of any act of bankruptcy committed or intended, shall be invalidated or impeached after the purchaser shall have bona fide sold and alienated the same without such knowledge, information, or notice, nor unless the assignees shall, within

months after the allowance of the commission, agree to refund or return to the purchaser the sum of money or other consideration, which he shall make it appear that he paid or gave for such purchase; and, in such case, upon the refunding or tendering such consideration, or so much

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thereof as shall be equivalent to that part of such purchase as remained in the possession of such purchaser the time of such knowledge, information, or notice, the assignees shall be entitled to the estate purchased as aforesaid from the said bankrupt, or to such remainder thereof, for the use of the creditors.

"Provided also, That in case the assignee or assignees of any bankrupt, shall enter upon and claim any

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lands or tenements, or any interest in lands or tenements, which shall be bona fide purchased of such bankrupt, for a valuable consideration, by any person or persons, not akin to such bankrupt or to his wife, after an act of bankruptcy committed, without any notice, information, or knowledge, of any act of bankruptcy committed or intended, it shall be lawful for the purchaser, or for the person or persons, claiming such lands or tenements from, the assignee or assignees, in the office of the clerk of the by, or under such bankrupt, to file a bill in equity against Circuit Court for the district in which such land or tenements lie, and upon his making it appear to the satisfaction of said court that he has paid a valuable considera. tion for such lands or tenements, or erected or made any buildings or improvements thereon prior to any notice, knowledge, or information, of any act of bankruptcy committed or intended, the said court shall ascertain the amount of the sums thus bona fide paid by such purchaser or claimant, which shall be refunded by the assignee or assignees, within such time as the said court shall order, or otherwise the title of such purchaser or claimant shall not afterwards be invalidated or impeached.

After submitting these amendments, Mr. O. moved for the committee to rise, in order o give time for them to be considered and printed. The motion was carried, and the House rose accordingly.

FRENCH DEBTS.

Mr. WALN presented a petition from a number of merchants and traders of Philadelphia, complaining that by the act prohibiting our intercourse with France, and her dependencies, they are prevented from taking measures to recover large debts which are due to them from those countries, and praying for such alterations to be made therein as shall afford them relief.

Mr. SEWALL moved that this petition be referred to the committee appointed to consider that part of the President's Speech which relates to the extending and invigorating measures for the defence of the country.

Mr. GALLATIN thought the Committee of Commerce would be a more proper reference.

Mr. OTIS said, the committee appointed on the subject of defence, had already had this law under consideration, conceiving it to come within the province of their appointment. If it did not, he wished the House would so determine. This law will certainly require amending during the present session. He had conceived it to be one of the best measures of defence adopted at the last session, and when extended and modified, he believed it would prove one of the best measures of defence which could be entered into at the present session.

of Commerce (being a standing committee) had The question for a reference to the Committee the preference; but this motion having been negatived-46 to 31, the other was put and carried.

IMPEACHMENT OF WILLIAM BLOUNT.

A message was received from the Senate, informing the House that the High Court of Impeachment sat on Monday on the trial of William Blount, and that his Counsel had filed their plea,

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which was now communicated by the Secretary sentatives of the United States, ought to be compelled of the Senate to this House. The plea is in the to answer. following words:

"UNITED STATES US. WILLIAM BLOUNT.

"Upon Impeachment of the House of Representatives of the United States, of high crimes and misdemea

nors.

"IN SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES, Dec. 24, 1798. "The aforesaid William Blount, saving and reserving to himself all exceptions to the imperfections and uncertainty of the articles of impeachment, by Jared Ingersoll and A. J. Dallas, his attorneys, comes and defends the force and injury, and says, that he, to the said articles of impeachment preferred against him by the House of Representatives of the United States, ought not to be compelled to answer, because he says that the eighth article of certain amendments of the Constitution of the United States, having been ratified by nine States, after the same was, in a Constitutional manner, proposed to the consideration of the several States in the Union, is of equal obligation with the original Constitution, and now forms a part thereof, and that by the same article it is declared and provided, that In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have

been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed

of the nature and cause of the accusation, to be confronted with the witnesses against him, to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defence.' "That proceedings by impeachment are provided and permitted by the Constitution of the United States, only on charges of bribery, treason, and other high crimes and misdemeanors, alleged to have been committed by the President, Vice President, and other civil officers of the United States, in the execution of their offices held under the United States, as appears by the fourth section of the second article, and by the seventh clause of the third section of the first article, and other articles, and clauses contained in the Constitution of

the United States.

"That although true it is, that he, the said William Blount, was a Senator of the United States, from the State of Tennessee, at the several periods in the said articles of impeachment referred to; yet, that he, the

said William, is not now a Senator, and is not, nor was at the several periods, so as aforesaid referred to, an officer of the United States; nor is he, the said William, in and by the said articles, charged with having committed any crime or misdemeanor, in the execution of any civil office held under the United States, or with any malconduct in civil office, or abuse of any public trust, in the execution thereof.

"That the Courts of Common Law, of a criminal jurisdiction, of the States, wherein the offences in the said articles recited are said to have been committed, as well as those of the United States, are competent to the cognisance, prosecution, and punishment, of the said crimes and misdemeanors, if the same have been perpetrated, as is suggested and charged by the said articles, which, however, he utterly denies. All which

the said William is ready to verify, and prays judgment

whether this High Court will have further cognisance of this suit, and of the said impeachment, and whether he, the said William, to the said articles of impeachment, so as aforesaid preferred by the House of Repre

JARED INGERSOLL. "A. J. DALLAS."

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The House then went into a Committee on the bill for enumerating the inhabitants of the United States. Mr. DENT in the Chair.

One schedule of the bill reported, orders a designation of the occupation of the inhabitants to be taken, which Mr. GRISWOLD moved to strike out.

Mr. HARPER hoped it would not, as it was a piece of information which might prove extremely useful, particularly in the estimation of any tax that might be proposed to be laid; indeed it would be absolutely necessary in the ascertainment of the amount of the revenue laws; it was the groundwork-the basis of political calculation, on which laws must be founded. Besides it would give the House information of the progress of manufactures and arts, and the Government might, by its fostering care, give the helping hand to the impotent manufacturer, &c The trouble could not be much in making this inquiry; but its advantage may be very great.

would be struck out, as he could not conceive any Mr. DAYTON (the Speaker) hoped the schedule necessity there could be in it; it would cause much unnecessary trouble, and indeed be very uncertain. In New Jersey, he said there were people who some part of the year made it a rule to carry on one branch and at other times another, and some two others; it would be difficult for them to say what branch they followed. It was not merely unnecessary, but would prove injurious. This particularity, he said, was very injurious in the law for the enumeration of slaves, and no doubt, would prove so in this law.

On the question to strike out-yeas 59, nays 33. Some trifling amendments were made, and the committee rose and reported the bill.

The House then took it up, and Mr. HARPER renewed his former argument, urging the necessity of the clause. It was carried in the House in favor of striking out-yeas 38, nays 34.

The bill was ordered to be engrossed for a third reading to-morrow.

THURSDAY, December 27.

The bill providing for the enumeration of the inhabitants of the United States, was read the third

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time and passed; as was also the bill respecting balances reported to be due from certain States, by the Commissioners for settling the accounts between the United States and the several States, 55 votes being in favour of its passage.

THE STAMP ACT.

USURPATION OF EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY. Mr. GRISWOLD called up for consideration the resolution which he yesterday laid upon the table, for the appointment of a committee to consider the propriety of amending the act for the punishment of certain crimes against the United States, so as to provide a penalty for any citizen who shall usurp the Executive authority of this Government, by commencing or carrying on any correspondence with the Government of any foreign Prince or State, relative to controversies or disputes which do or shall exist between such Prince or State and the United States.

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he had gathered these hopes from the Address of the President at the opening of the session, as in that Address, he seemed to wish to argue down the too sanguine hopes of a speedy reconciliation which might arise from the communication he had to make on the subject. This was not only the impression which the Address had made on his Mr. Oris said, the committee to whom was re- mind, but it was, as far as he had learnt, the genferred the bill for amending the stamp act, with eral impression. Indeed, he found a different tone respect to the duty payable on foreign bills of ex- even amongst those gentlemen who had always change and bills of lading, had received informa been loudest in their cry for war, from what extion from the Commissioner of the Revenue, stat-isted when he last parted with them. Nothing was ing that it would be necessary to provide some compensation for the supervisors, who had the management of the stamp business, as the present law provides none. The committee had also suggested the propriety of making some other alterations in the bill; he therefore moved that the Committee of the Whole be discharged from the farther consideration of this bill, with a view of having it recommitted to the select committee who reported it. Mr. GRISWOLD said, the gentleman from VirThe motion was carried, and the bill was recom-ginia had mistaken the object of this resolution, in mitted. Mr. Oris afterwards made a report of the supposing it had reference to any particular perproposed amendments; but, owing to some infor- son. Its object, said Mr. G. is general, and I think mality, the report was not received. of the first importance. I think it necessary to guard by law against the interference of indíviduals in the negotiation of our Executive with the Governments of foreign countries. The present situation of Europe, in my opinion, calls aloud for a regulation of this kind. He did not know but an interference of this kind might have already taken place; but the object of this motion was prospective, and had nothing to do with what is past. If, said Mr. G., offences of this kind are to pass unpunished, it may be in the power of an individual to frustrate all the designs of the Executive. The agent of a faction, if such a faction shall exist, may be sent to a foreign country to negotiate in behalf of that faction, in opposition to the Executive authority, and will any one say that such an offence ought not severely to be punished? It certainly ought. Placing the subject in this point of view, he thought it the duty of the Legislature to inquire into it. He was not certain that adequate provision could be made for the punishment of offences of this kind, but he wished the matter to go to a committee for consideration. He hoped no occasion would ever arise for bringing into operation a law of this kind; but, if it should, it would be well to be prepared to meet it. He could not see why this should be considered as a subject of irritation, as no gentleman would pretend to say that an unauthorized individual ought to exercise a power which should influence the measures of a foreign Government with respect to this country. This power has been delegated by the Constitution to the President; and, said Mr. G., the people of this country might as well meet and legislate for us, or erect themselves into a judicial tribunal, in place of the established Judiciary, as that any individual, or set of persons, should take upon him or themselves this power, vested in the Executive. Gentlemen may say that all this is right; but, in his opinion, such practices would be destructive of the principles of our Government. He hoped, therefore, the resolution would be agreed to.

then heard but a declaration of war-now he heard nothing of that kind. Thinking, therefore, as he did, that the subject is of too novel a kind for general legislation, without some good reason being assigned for it, and that the House does not possess sufficient information, if the measure be levelled at a particular object, he was opposed to the motion.

The resolution having been read. Mr. NICHOLAS said, he believed this to be a new subject of general legislation; and, as such, he did not apprehend there was any necessity for making the proposed inquiry; and, if it had any particular object in view, the motion appeared to him premature. If it was founded upon what had been seen in the public papers relative to the conduct of a certain gentleman who has lately been in France, he thought the mover ought to have waited until the President of the United States had put the House into possession of facts upon that subject; which, though promised three weeks ago, had not yet been received. Indeed he did not know but the conduct of this House in giving an opinion upon these despatches before they are received, had preTented the communication; and if the House should proceed to legislate upon them, the President may suppose they have no desire to see what he has promised to lay before them, and withhold them altogether. If any particular object has given occasion to this new kind of legislation, the House ought to know it. He had hoped that no change had taken place in the affairs of this country with respect to foreign nations, which could have directed the resentments of gentlemen to any particular person. He had hoped things were mending, and

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